There are so many instances in Scripture (The Torah and Prophets) where evidence is given for Yeshua’s pre-existence in heaven. He is even mistaken for the Father many times.
2 But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you One will go forth for me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity.
Here, Yah the Father is clearly speaking of his son, Yeshua, whose “goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity.”
John 1:1 – 3 cements everything we should understand about Yeshua’s ancient existence:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim. 2 He was in the beginning with Elohim. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
—John 1:1 – 3
And this is why Yeshua said what he said in his prayer in John 17:5.
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
An understanding of the Elohim, and what that is, is also lacking among believers. Some people are completely thrown by the simple LKP series, Yeshua to the Rescue, wherein we use “Yeshua” where “Yah” normally appears in Scripture verses to illustrate who was truly being highlighted in the story. One such person even wrote us saying something along the lines of: “Since when did Yah become Yeshua?”
From what I’ve seen, “Elohim” is like a sir name, and “Yah” refers to both the Father and Son in the Torah, Prophets, and Writings. So, Yah Elohim is like Yah Senior and Yah Junior, depending on who you’re reading about. Knowing which one it is referring to takes a bit of discernment. But the Ancient of Days, the white-headed being on the throne in Daniel 7 can only be the Father. Also, all references to the “Most High” can only be the Father. But the Father is not mentioned in Scripture nearly as much as Yeshua is, who is also called “Yah Elohim.”
Clear evidence of this is seen in verses like the following:
1 The oracle of the word of Yah concerning Israel: “Thus declares Yah, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him. . . .”
At first glance, this seems to be the Father talking, but we know that he gave the right of creation to his son, Yeshua, the Word, who spoke everything into existence. Reaching down to verse 10 we read:
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced. . . .”
This is clearly Yeshua speaking, for it is he who was pierced on the tree as a sacrifice for us. The words “when they look on me,” is pretty accurate also. The preposition used is word H413, el, which means to “look to” or “toward,” which implies motion or direction. And a yod, or Hebrew “Y,” comes at the end of the word, making it personal: “to me”; “toward me.” It’s like when we say “ach” (H252) and “achoth” (H269) for “brother” and “sister,” but “achi” (the “i” represents the closing yod) and “achoti” for “my brother” and “my sister.”
Yes. Many, many readers of Scripture cannot see that the person who was mostly interacting with our ancestors of old was in fact Yeshua, or that he was also the one speaking things into existence from the very first page of Scripture. When the Father, who is in charge, says, “Let us make man in our image,” who can he possibly be talking to? (Gen. 1:26.)
Let’s look at the events of Exodus 33:19 – 23.
19 And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘Yah.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” 21 And Yah said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, 22 and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen.”
—Exodus 33:19 – 23
Yah said that he would let Moses see his glory, but not his face. He would only allow Moses to see him from behind. And this of course happened in Exodus 34:5 – 8. But who was it that passed by Moses?
Another interesting event takes place in Exodus 24:
9 Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, 10 and they saw the Elohim of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. 11 And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld Elohim, and ate and drank.
—Exodus 24:9 – 11
Again, who was this that they saw? Let’s see what John 1:18 says:
18 No one has ever seen Elohim; the only Elohim, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
According to John 1:18, no one has seen Yah Elohim, the Father, in person. Visions do not count. Seeing the Father in vision is not seeing him in person. Now, according to John 10:35, the Scriptures cannot be “broken,” “altered,” “annulled,” or “destroyed,” depending on the translation you cite. If something is referenced that breaks Scripture, something is wrong. So, it cannot be the Father that passed before Moses in person. Nor was it the Father they saw when they went up on the mountain. Putting everything together, we know that this was in fact Yeshua, who was previously known as Yah Elohim also; Yah Junior, in other words.
It is a family business after all; a business that the faithful and righteous will also be part of. You see, anyone who overcomes will become sons and daughters of Elohim. They will take on Yah’s character and be called Elohim themselves.
6 I said, “You are Elohim, sons of the Most High, all of you.